Posted by
cabiv on Tuesday, October 28, 2008 11:47:18 PM
Rush Limbaugh aired information about a plan for your 401K announced by Teresa Ghilarducci that would take your 401K (at its August value) and place it in the Social Security Lockbox. (Am I the only one who does not have a key for this lockbox?)
They would pay you 3% (adjusted for inflation) and you would get a $600 Tax credit in the account each year. You could make up to a 5% donation (sounds like you might not have a choice). Let’s see what this would do for you keeping it as simple as possible.
You are a lousy employee stuck in dead end job and receive no raises in 30 years. You make $20,000 the first year, the last year, and every year in between.
Plan A (Ghilarducci’s plan)
You receive your $600 Tax Credit, donate 5% ($1000) a year for 30 years. At the end of 30 years “your” account will have $77,577.02 in it. If they continue to pay 3% interest and send you the interest with your Social Security check you will receive an extra $ 193.94 per month ($2,327.31 per year). When you die, do your kids get the money? Or is it left in the lockbox?
Plan B (cabiv’s Plan)
Same job, same $600 tax credit, same 5% donation each year. Money is kept in a S&P index fund instead of by “by the government”. It should average at least 10% annually over 30 years. At the end of 30 years you will have $273,660.08 in it and it will be yours to do with what you want. If it continues to earn 10% interest you will receive a check for $2,280.50 per month plus Social Security ($27,366.01 per year). When you die, your kids will get the money less whatever the death tax is.
If your kid leave it in the S&P fund another 30 years they will have $4,341,095.25 with out any additional tax credits or donations. (That would be $434,109.53 a year for them to retire on)
Even if you chicken out at retirement and place it in a fund earning 3% you would receive $684.15 per month ($8,209.80 per year)
Which plan do you want to retire on?
Below is the spreadsheet I used for my calculations:
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Tax Rebate
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Interest
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Salary
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5% Deposit
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Tax Rebate
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Interest
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Salary
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5% Deposit
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$ 600.00
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$ 18.00
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$20,000.00
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$1,000.00
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$ 600.00
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$ 60.00
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$20,000.00
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$1,000.00
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$ 2,218.00
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$ 66.54
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$20,000.00
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$1,000.00
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$ 2,260.00
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$ 226.00
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$20,000.00
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$1,000.00
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$ 3,884.54
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$ 116.54
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$20,000.00
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$1,000.00
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$ 4,086.00
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$ 408.60
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$20,000.00
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$1,000.00
|
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$ 5,601.08
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$ 168.03
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$20,000.00
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$1,000.00
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$ 6,094.60
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$ 609.46
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$20,000.00
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$1,000.00
|
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$ 7,369.11
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$ 221.07
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$20,000.00
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$1,000.00
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$ 8,304.06
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$ 830.41
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$20,000.00
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$1,000.00
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$ 9,190.18
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$ 275.71
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$20,000.00
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$1,000.00
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$ 10,734.47
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$ 1,073.45
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$20,000.00
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$1,000.00
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$11,065.89
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$ 331.98
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$20,000.00
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$1,000.00
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$ 13,407.91
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$ 1,340.79
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$20,000.00
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$1,000.00
|
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$12,997.86
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$ 389.94
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$20,000.00
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$1,000.00
|
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$ 16,348.70
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$ 1,634.87
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$20,000.00
|
$1,000.00
|
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$14,987.80
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$ 449.63
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$20,000.00
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$1,000.00
|
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$ 19,583.57
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$ 1,958.36
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$20,000.00
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$1,000.00
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$17,037.43
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$ 511.12
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$20,000.00
|
$1,000.00
|
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$ 23,141.93
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$ 2,314.19
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$20,000.00
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$1,000.00
|
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$19,148.56
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$ 574.46
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$20,000.00
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$1,000.00
|
|
$ 27,056.12
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$ 2,705.61
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$20,000.00
|
$1,000.00
|
|
$21,323.01
|
$ 639.69
|
$20,000.00
|
$1,000.00
|
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$ 31,361.74
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$ 3,136.17
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$20,000.00
|
$1,000.00
|
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$23,562.70
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$ 706.88
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$20,000.00
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$1,000.00
|
|
$ 36,097.91
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$ 3,609.79
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$20,000.00
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$1,000.00
|
|
$25,869.58
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$ 776.09
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$20,000.00
|
$1,000.00
|
|
$ 41,307.70
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$ 4,130.77
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$20,000.00
|
$1,000.00
|
|
$28,245.67
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$ 847.37
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$20,000.00
|
$1,000.00
|
|
$ 47,038.47
|
$ 4,703.85
|
$20,000.00
|
$1,000.00
|
|
$30,693.04
|
$ 920.79
|
$20,000.00
|
$1,000.00
|
|
$ 53,342.32
|
$ 5,334.23
|
$20,000.00
|
$1,000.00
|
|
$33,213.83
|
$ 996.42
|
$20,000.00
|
$1,000.00
|
|
$ 60,276.55
|
$ 6,027.66
|
$20,000.00
|
$1,000.00
|
|
$35,810.25
|
$1,074.31
|
$20,000.00
|
$1,000.00
|
|
$ 67,904.21
|
$ 6,790.42
|
$20,000.00
|
$1,000.00
|
|
$38,484.56
|
$1,154.54
|
$20,000.00
|
$1,000.00
|
|
$ 76,294.63
|
$ 7,629.46
|
$20,000.00
|
$1,000.00
|
|
$41,239.09
|
$1,237.17
|
$20,000.00
|
$1,000.00
|
|
$ 85,524.09
|
$ 8,552.41
|
$20,000.00
|
$1,000.00
|
|
$44,076.27
|
$1,322.29
|
$20,000.00
|
$1,000.00
|
|
$ 95,676.50
|
$ 9,567.65
|
$20,000.00
|
$1,000.00
|
|
$46,998.55
|
$1,409.96
|
$20,000.00
|
$1,000.00
|
|
$ 106,844.15
|
$ 10,684.41
|
$20,000.00
|
$1,000.00
|
|
$50,008.51
|
$1,500.26
|
$20,000.00
|
$1,000.00
|
|
$ 119,128.56
|
$ 11,912.86
|
$20,000.00
|
$1,000.00
|
|
$53,108.77
|
$1,593.26
|
$20,000.00
|
$1,000.00
|
|
$ 132,641.42
|
$ 13,264.14
|
$20,000.00
|
$1,000.00
|
|
$56,302.03
|
$1,689.06
|
$20,000.00
|
$1,000.00
|
|
$ 147,505.56
|
$ 14,750.56
|
$20,000.00
|
$1,000.00
|
|
$59,591.09
|
$1,787.73
|
$20,000.00
|
$1,000.00
|
|
$ 163,856.12
|
$ 16,385.61
|
$20,000.00
|
$1,000.00
|
|
$62,978.82
|
$1,889.36
|
$20,000.00
|
$1,000.00
|
|
$ 181,841.73
|
$ 18,184.17
|
$20,000.00
|
$1,000.00
|
|
$66,468.19
|
$1,994.05
|
$20,000.00
|
$1,000.00
|
|
$ 201,625.90
|
$ 20,162.59
|
$20,000.00
|
$1,000.00
|
|
$70,062.23
|
$2,101.87
|
$20,000.00
|
$1,000.00
|
|
$ 223,388.49
|
$ 22,338.85
|
$20,000.00
|
$1,000.00
|
|
$73,764.10
|
$2,212.92
|
$20,000.00
|
$1,000.00
|
|
$ 247,327.34
|
$ 24,732.73
|
$20,000.00
|
$1,000.00
|
|
$77,577.02
|
|
|
|
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$ 273,660.08
|
|
|
|
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Yearly
|
$2,327.31
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at 3%
|
|
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Yearly
|
$ 27,366.01
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at 10%
|
|
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Monthly
|
$ 193.94
|
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Monthly
|
$ 2,280.50
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Yearly
|
$ 8,209.80
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at 3%
|
|
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|
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Monthly
|
$ 684.15
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